temptemple 发表于 2013-2-12 23:40 static/image/common/back.gif
中日政府其实都不想打，那么日本会不会被下克上呢？
毕竟日本刚被石元下克上了
石元的事更象给日本政府一个国有化的借口，一唱一合。
齐的隆冬强 发表于 2013-2-13 16:01 static/image/common/back.gif
打仗首先是烧钱，看看皇军的军费来源就知道，克上是找死。再说，今天的高家庄也不是从前了。
那如果把老美看做这个上会如何呢？
思炎 发表于 2013-2-13 03:11 static/image/common/back.gif
还是实力不够嘛，让他磕头还得人家听你不是？
我感觉中方没有料到鬼子的手段还是一如既往之卑鄙，有 ...
我觉得舆论被动的主要原因还是我们现在还没上桌，而鬼子现在是端盘子的主力，桌上面的人选择性倾听和放大，顺带多一个敲我们竹杠的理由；另一个就是鬼子二战时留下的文化心理因素没有被清算，还有念想，正所谓“念念不忘，必有回响”，鬼子的卑鄙就是这个回响的写照。
希望我们早日上桌，估计那时鬼子就会安分点了。
齐的隆冬强 发表于 2013-2-13 15:57 static/image/common/back.gif
其实呢，我觉得对于你不了解的东西发言最好谨慎一点，我的分析，第一，你没当过兵，没在部队里待过，第二 ...
又不是百万苏军压境，象当年在西沙打个海战，凡不着两百多万部队全进入战备状态吧。
我知道你附近有驻军，但肯定不是对付钓鱼岛及相应日美军的主力部队， 更不是二炮这样的关键部队。
大山深处长剑昂首待发
第二炮兵某旅全员全时保持高度战备状态
中国军网据解放军报北京2月12日电 特约记者蔡瑞金、杨永刚报道：今天凌晨，随着一阵刺耳的警报声响起，一场实战化条件下模拟发射演练在大山深处拉开帷幕。第二炮兵某旅加强春节期间战备值班，确保坚守在战备岗位的部队随时能拉得出、打得赢。
该旅党委调整值班兵力，制订完善了多套战备预案。为保持良好的战备状态，该旅领导分别下到导弹分队、阵地哨所，指导各单位做好节日战备工作。
导弹阵地，长剑昂首待发；战备库房，物资一应俱全。记者看到，随着一声紧急号令，该旅挺进大山深处陌生地域，展开了一场模拟发射演练。为加强春节期间部队战备工作，该旅采取多种措施组织官兵熟悉战备方案，严格落实战备值班制度，进行战备状态检查，加强战备演练研究，结合任务修订完善了10余种应急处置预案和流程，提高了部队快速反应和处置突发情况的能力。
如果我们都能客观地分析报道， 不带情绪和偏见，就很容易讨论和发现事实真相
否则，大家各执一词，就没必要浪费时间了
temptemple 发表于 2013-2-13 22:43 static/image/common/back.gif
那如果把老美看做这个上会如何呢？
这我哪儿知道啊，你得问村长去啊
得大自在 发表于 2013-2-13 23:08 static/image/common/back.gif
又不是百万苏军压境，象当年在西沙打个海战，凡不着两百多万部队全进入战备状态吧。
我知道你附近有驻 ...
同意，之前坊间传言，有些地方是有战备的
西行漫记 发表于 2013-2-13 21:40 static/image/common/back.gif
新闻联播中直10的报道有看头。
还是转述忙总的一句话吧，tg现在最主要的任务，是把美帝熬趴下，其他的以后再说，所谓钓鱼岛上炮声隆，可能是撸主打飞机的炮声吧
齐的隆冬强 发表于 2013-2-13 08:43 static/image/common/back.gif
还是转述忙总的一句话吧，tg现在最主要的任务，是把美帝熬趴下，其他的以后再说，所谓钓鱼岛上炮声隆，可 ...
你比蔡明还黑:P
西行漫记 发表于 2013-2-13 21:43 static/image/common/back.gif
石元的事更象给日本政府一个国有化的借口，一唱一合。
感觉石原的演技不错。
塔里木河 发表于 2013-2-14 00:56 static/image/common/back.gif
感觉石原的演技不错。
十元估计没想到会摊上那么大的事，呵呵。
西行漫记 发表于 2013-2-14 18:05 static/image/common/back.gif
十元估计没想到会摊上那么大的事，呵呵。
不，石原认为，事越大越好。
混水才好摸鱼。
塔里木河 发表于 2013-2-14 04:06 static/image/common/back.gif
不，石原认为，事越大越好。
混水才好摸鱼。
小国在中美的夹缝中还想摸鱼?
英文里说May you get what you wish for.
塔里木河 发表于 2013-2-14 04:06 static/image/common/back.gif
不，石原认为，事越大越好。
混水才好摸鱼。
小国在中美的夹缝中还想摸鱼?
英文里说May you get what you wish for.
西行漫记 发表于 2013-2-14 19:40 static/image/common/back.gif
小国在中美的夹缝中还想摸鱼?
英文里说May you get what you wish for.
他要摸的鱼应该不是他说的。
塔里木河 发表于 2013-2-15 07:55 static/image/common/back.gif
他要摸的鱼应该不是他说的。
请兄台有时间再帮贴帖新闻联播嘛{:4_255:}
思炎 发表于 2013-2-15 08:04 static/image/common/back.gif
请兄台有时间再帮贴帖新闻联播嘛
好。
尽管以前没写过。
刚刚把2月14日的贴到2月主题贴了。
石原那么大年纪了。
老狐狸了。
西行漫记 发表于 2013-2-13 21:43 static/image/common/back.gif
石元的事更象给日本政府一个国有化的借口，一唱一合。
我不这样认为，这事充满了日本人特有的大胆妄为和自欺欺人。
新春走基层：东南一线空军时刻准备升空战斗
中广网消息（记者徐龙吴德超通讯员孙小健）春节期间，解放军官兵们依然坚守一线岗位，过节不忘战备。
记者走进南京军区空军某师，浓浓的节日氛围扑面而来，红红的对联，红红的灯笼，布满军营，红火喜庆。来到这个师的战备值班室，记者却看到了另一番景象，值班员高度警备，有的紧盯着屏幕上的各项战斗数据，有的三五一群在图纸上边画边讨论。战机和飞行员24小时待命。一旁的墙上写着“今天准备战斗”等战斗标语。
值班飞行员王玮告诉记者，今年春节战备值班人员安排上也是精挑细选，强强搭配，主要是以骨干力量为主。在值班人员的后续力量方面也充分考虑人员的休息，根据战备值班的需要，进行了灵活的调整。相比往年要更加严格。如果有应急处置的任务，飞行员会立即升空，完成作战任务。
这个师是我人民空军的精锐之师，地处东南沿海一线，担负着捍卫祖国领土、领海、领空的神圣使命。记者采访期间，部队拉响了两次战备警铃，所有值班人员立即进入临战状态，战机紧急升空，展开战斗巡航。这种突然拉战备的情况，对该师来讲已经是常态化。
师长景建峰介绍说，上午主要是空军对我们进行战备系统检查，是为了节日期间战备安全，空防稳定，对我们部队来讲是没有春节的，空军有一句话叫做养兵千日千日用，我们始终保持这种战备的状态，随时听令处理一切空中情况，保证空防安全稳定。
这个师是一支战功赫赫的英雄部队，曾经两次入朝作战，击落击伤敌机117架。常年来，他们按照打仗标准锤炼部队，在复杂气象、复杂电磁环境下，进行超低空隐蔽突防、制空作战、对地突击等训练，积极推进作战准备。去年底，在空军组织的“对抗空战比武竞赛”中，该师囊括了某型战机团体总分第一和个人前6名的优异成绩。他们研发的兵棋推演系统，能够在虚拟环境中进行作战筹划、指挥控制演练和验证战术选择。
师长景建峰：“特别是习主席对我们部队提出能打仗、打胜仗的要求以来，对我们师的官兵来说一直是，闻战则喜，有我无敌。”
http://kj.81.cn/content/2013-02/13/content_5217799.htm
闻战则喜 有我无敌
据说鬼子吹响了全面和中国对抗的号角：
Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe: Chinese need for conflict is ‘deeply ingrained’
TOKYO — China has a “deeply ingrained” need to spar with Japan and other Asian neighbors over territory, because the ruling Communist Party uses the disputes to maintain strong domestic support, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said in an interview.
Clashes with neighbors, notably Japan, play to popular opinion, Abe said, given a Chinese education system that emphasizes patriotism and “anti-Japanese sentiment.”
Abe’s theory on the entrenched motivation behind China’s recent naval aggression helps explain why he has spent more effort trying to counter the Chinese than make peace with them: He thinks the fierce dispute with China over an island chain in the East China Sea isn’t going away anytime soon.
Abe spoke about China in what aides described as unusually detailed terms, laying out challenges that Chinese leaders might face if other Asian countries, unnerved by Beijing’s maritime expansionism, decide to reduce trade and other economic ties. China’s government would be hurt by such moves, Abe said, because without economic growth, it “will not be able to control the 1.3 billion people . . . under the one-party rule.”
Abe also laid out his plans for deterrence, which include boosting military spending and strengthening ties with Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia and other nations that share concerns about Beijing. Abe, who is to meet Friday with President Obama in Washington, said the U.S. presence in Asia is “critical” to deter China from taking territory controlled by other countries.
His comments came in an interview Saturday with The Washington Post, which The Post was granted on the condition that the article not be published until Abe was departing for Washington.
In recent years, China has played an increasingly boisterous role in the South China Sea, claiming a massive sphere of territory that includes some of the world’s most trafficked shipping lanes and overlaps with claims of a half-dozen other countries. For Japan, the dispute with China focuses on a chain of remote islands in the East China Sea known to Japanese as the Senkaku and to Chinese as the Diaoyu, several of which Japan’s central government purchased in September after previously renting.
“What is important first and foremost,” Abe said, “is to make realize that they would not be able to change the rules or take away somebody’s territorial water or territory by coercion or intimidation.”
Abe’s assessment of China sounds like a version of the one that experts in Beijing give of Japan, which they say has shifted to the right on foreign policy and security issues in a bid to recover clout and pride lost during two decades of economic stagnation. Abe’s criticism of Chinese education is also notable because, during his first stint as prime minister six years ago, he revised a law to encourage a more patriotic curriculum in Japan’s classrooms.
Pragmatic and popular
Abe became prime minister for a second time in December, after making a string of far-right campaign pledges to revise Japan’s pacifist constitution and loosen certain restrictions on the armed forces. He also promised to be tougher on China than the previous government, the deeply unpopular and moderate Democratic Party of Japan, which was booted from office.
The question is whether Abe will change course and begin pushing for his controversial right-wing hobbyhorses after July parliamentary elections that could help his Liberal Democratic Party build an overwhelming majority and leave Abe emboldened. One concern is that Abe could revise earlier government apologies for atrocities committed by Japan’s World War II-era military. Abe, in the interview, said he would someday like to make a “future-oriented” statement aimed at Japan’s neighbors, but he did not elaborate on what its message would be.
Beijing has responded to Japan’s nationalization of the Senkaku Islands by sending surveillance ships and aircraft into Japanese territory, drawing Japan into a risky showdown in which the neighbors chase each other around the waters and airspace of uninhabited rocky outcroppings. Any armed conflict could draw in the United States, which is treaty-bound to protect Japan.
The 35-year shift
While historical animosities are at the root of Japan’s territorial dispute with China, the maritime conflict is relatively new. During the interview, Abe portrayed China’s actions as part of a 35-year shift that began when the Communist Party opened its once-controlled economy. China’s government has since had to abandon the hope of nationwide economic equality — “one of its pillars of legitimacy,” Abe said — forcing it to create “some different pillars,” including rapid economic growth and patriotism.
“What is unfortunate, however,” Abe added, “is that in the case of China, teaching patriotism teaching anti-Japanese sentiment. In other words, their education policy of teaching patriotism has become even more pronounced as they started the reform and opening policy.”
Abe said China’s tactics at sea are yielding “strong support” domestically. Those tactics, some analysts say, also could prove financially lucrative if China gains control of shipping lanes and access to rich fishing territory, and extracts hydrocarbon reserves.
But Abe warned that China’s sparring with its neighbors could backfire, potentially undermining trade partnerships and causing skittishness among foreign investors.
“Such behavior is going to have an effect on their economic activity at the end of the day,” he said, “because it will lead to losing the confidence of the international community, which will result in less investments in China. I believe it is fully possible to have China to change their policy once they gain that recognition.”
Yuki Oda contributed to this report.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/japans-prime-minister-shinzo-abe-chinese-need-for-conflict-is-deeply-ingrained/2013/02/20/48adbc80-7a87-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_story_1.html
b52飞后该怎么办？
霉菌终于刺果果地走上前台。
没有预案吗？肯定不会。 听之任之，掩耳盗铃吗？更不会。若这样，不是伸脸给霉菌抽嘛。
先明确一事实：钓鱼岛名义上是经霉菌授权日寇所谓实际控制。
键盘政治局根据实力由浅到深反击方案：
1、我有关飞机也飞一趟钓鱼岛上空；
2、在东海以外地区，有霉菌无人机或F15什么的意外自由落体；
3、东海上空b52，f15什么的意外自由落体；
4、太平洋上， 某航空母舰编队的驱逐舰或潜艇意外喂鱼；
5、 太平洋上，某核动力航母意外爆炸沉没。
一定要找回场子，等着瞧吧。
本帖最后由 ilovechina 于 2013-11-27 23:22 编辑
基本上我覺得這只是個假議題而已，
有興趣的網友可以去看大秦帝國1，
看看秦國是努力了多久才派新軍跟魏國打，
目前中國只能學秦軍窩在函谷關不動，
不要因為一個小地方就受了日、美的挑釁。
等軍力能摧毀美國三個航母戰鬥群外加日本的海空軍以後再打，
打敗他們之後，再簽定合約順勢拿下九州。
原來我之前就回過文了。理由和那時是一樣的。
中國目前的目標是發展內政，
縮小貧富差距，讓人人有車開，人人在城市裡房子住，降低環境上汙染。外交上和北邊羅斯交好，繼續發展經濟，再把預算放在國防工業上，就一直這樣子循環不已，等到那個臨界點出現了，就是決戰的時候到了，我等這天等了十幾年了，不差再等另一個十幾年，釣魚台爭奪戰打贏了又如何？能夠順勢佔領九州嗎？打了一個小地方，人家小日本休養生息，再過幾年又來了，沒完沒了，所以乾脆打贏了就滅了日本這樣子的大戰略才符合中國的利益，順勢完全東亞的統一。另外，美國隨時虎視眈眈，就是在等開戰的藉口，摧毀咱們得來不易的國防武力，用幼苗去擋老美的大樹，就是小不忍則亂大謀而已，等能夠把他們三分之一以上的軍力給滅了，這樣子他們就有了忌憚，從此退出亞洲，這樣子的開戰才有真正的意義。
这话终于亮了出来。
让那些鸵鸟无可遁形。
直面现实。
收回钓岛，要等我们有实力在南美洲的军事基地部署不少于5万人的那一天。
美高官就钓岛问题狂言挺日 称若争端升级美将“武力回应”
得大自在 发表于 2014-10-2 23:14
这话终于亮了出来。
让那些鸵鸟无可遁形。
直面现实。
这个新闻要结合当前形势看才有意义。
近期，美国拉拢盟友打击is……日本部分政治势力欲和中国协商沟壑……美国发表这样的声明一则给日本右派壮壮胆，二则加大中日间的离心力，三则给小盟友们鼓鼓气，看，俺还是老大，俺不怕中国。
当然，中国崛起的势头又岂会被类似这样的小技俩给打断，美国不投入足够大的本钱，只想靠挑拨离间维持自己的霸主地位是没用的。
无聊看完65页评论，唯一感觉论坛都天涯化......
zk0056 发表于 2014-10-3 12:49 http://www.sychaguan.com/static/image/common/back.gif
无聊看完65页评论，唯一感觉论坛都天涯化......
既然是无聊看帖，有帖子看看解闷就很好了，在乎什么天涯化？不如56茶友也来写点有趣的评论嘛
cornwall 发表于 2014-10-2 23:41 static/image/common/back.gif
这个新闻要结合当前形势看才有意义。
近期，美国拉拢盟友打击is……日本部分政治势力欲和中国协商沟壑… ...
这种事料敌从严, 实力压倒一切，不能掉以轻心。
新表态有出来了
沃克指出，与俄罗斯及中国就有争议的国际问题展开外交合作，取得了一定成果，应当继续，但莫斯科与北京的领导层所推行的相当富于“侵略性”的政策，尤其是俄近来在乌克兰问题上所表现出的咄咄逼人态度，令美国及其北约盟国已做好了通过军事手段解决有争议问题的准备。
美副防长：中俄富于侵略性 美或用战争手段回应